Research seminar with Daniel M. Hausman, Research Professor at Center for Population-Level Bioethics at Rutgers University. This seminar is arranged by the Institute for Futures Studies and Center for Population-Level Bioethics at Rutgers University, New Jersey, USA. Abstract: This talk, which is drawn from an unpublished book manuscript: Health Care: Cost Effective and Fair, grapples with the question of what constitutes a fair allocation of health care, without, unfortunately, finding a satisfactory answer. Along the way, it examines John Broome’s influential and widely cited 1990 essay, which maintains that a fair allocation of divisible goods or of chances to receive indivisible goods, should be in proportion to the strength of people’s claims to those goods. The talk points out several problems with Broome’s account, and it also questions views that link fairness to desert. Recorded on December 15 2021 at the Institute for Futures Studies, Stockholm.